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What they’re saying about the Eagles: Takeaways from training camp and previewing a Super Bowl rematch

What they're saying about the Eagles: Takeaways from training camp and previewing a Super Bowl rematch

From an official standpoint, training camp is over, although as our personal Jimmy Kempski identified earlier this week, that successfully solely means media will not be capable of watch the practices between now and the opening of the common season. Kind of deceptive to make a massive fuss out of this a part of the preseason course of being “over” when practices proceed at a pretty speedy tempo.

However since you will not be getting breathless updates from practices the remainder of the means in, it is nearly as good a time as any to mirror on what transpired to date in August, and the place it leaves the Eagles heading into their rematch with the Patriots on Thursday night time.

First, a take a look at one in every of the males who helped Doug Pederson journey on the path that made him a Super Bowl profitable coach.

Did the Andy Reid / Eagles cut up work out for Andy Reid?

Danny Heifetz | The Ringer

Now that the Eagles have a Lombardi Trophy of their cupboard, it is a little simpler to look again fondly on the Reid years as a robust and satisfying interval of soccer, even when it finally ended with out the final prize. Rose-colored glasses are in heavier provide when you climb the summit.

As for Reid, nicely, he is continued to have a lot of the similar points in Kansas Metropolis that doomed him right here.

Reid left Philly with a fame as a choker regardless of a 10-9 playoff document. In Kansas Metropolis, his postseason report is 1-Four. Two of these losses are amongst the worst collapses in NFL historical past. At this level, Reid’s quantity of playoff buffoonery is so wealthy that he could also be the solely coach who might win a Super Bowl and nonetheless be generally known as a choker in the playoffs. 

 In the meantime, again in Philly, the Super Bowl LII victory proves that Reid gained’t be missed, though that wasn’t apparent for fairly a while. The group required a deep clear after three seasons of Chip Kelly, who changed Reid to a lot fanfare however shortly soured on everybody. After his ouster, it will have been truthful to ask whether or not the Eagles made a mistake not driving with Reid via a robust stretch. Maybe members of the group have been considering the similar factor provided that they turned to a Reid disciple to wash up the Kelly mess. 

Doug Pederson first performed in Philadelphia in 1999 underneath Reid, who began him over then-rookie Donovan McNabb (followers tried to pelt Pederson with beer and batteries). Ten years later, Reid employed Pederson away from a Louisiana highschool to work as Philadelphia’s offensive quality-control coach—the teaching model of an internship. After a promotion to quarterbacks coach, Reid employed Pederson to be the offensive coordinator in Kansas Metropolis, the place, in accordance with The Athletic, Pederson heard the time period “RPO” for the first time. Pederson’s ascension to a Super Bowl in his second season is an endorsement of Reid’s teaching tree, which additionally consists of Ravens coach John Harbaugh … nevertheless it additionally highlights Reid’s playoff impotence. 

Whereas the Eagles discovered their solution to glory with a Reid disciple, Reid’s legacy has develop into paradoxical. In a Venn diagram the place one aspect is the pantheon of coaches who influenced trendy offense and the different are the coaches with the most laughable, so-funny-it-hurts playoff careers in NFL historical past, Reid is the lone man in the center. He’s forward of his time. Perhaps that’s why he can’t handle the clock. [theringer.com]

11 issues I feel about the Eagles after training camp

Brandon Lee Gowton | Bleeding Inexperienced Nation

BGN’s fearless chief has a few ideas on Carson Wentz, Donnel Pumphrey (unlikely to make the workforce), defensive position depth, and a entire lot extra as we edge nearer to the common season, and his full ideas are value testing.

Let’s hone in on Wentz, whose standing might be a topic a debate proper up till he hits the subject for actual.

This perception doesn’t simply stem from blind religion. It comes from seeing how wholesome and superior he’s appeared whereas collaborating in follow. I do know the Eagles’ choice to again him off from 11-on-11 has spooked some individuals, however I simply didn’t see the want for him to be risking additional damage in these drills. 

 It seems like Wentz may return to 11-on-11 heading into the third preseason recreation. If that’s the case, that’ll give him greater than two weeks of apply prematurely of Week 1. I feel that’s sufficient time. 

If by some means it’s not, and Nick Foles begins Week 1, Wentz would then have 10 extra days earlier than the Eagles play the Buccaneers in Week 2. I’d need to assume he’ll be beginning by then at the very newest. 

 The Eagles’ actions present Wentz can be beginning a lot nearer to Week 1 than Week 7. If Wentz was going to overlook a number of video games, they doubtless would’ve put him on the lively/Bodily Unable to Carry out (PUP) to start out camp. However they didn’t. 

 Wentz goes to be prepared early in the season and that’s excellent information for the Eagles as a result of, you see, he’s one among the most promising gamers at his place in the league. We all know the Eagles can go far with him at the helm. [bleedinggreennation.com]

The tactic behind Lane Johnson’s outspokenness

Jeff McLane | Philly.com

Johnson definitely is not the solely Eagles participant unafraid to talk his thoughts — on a TV someplace in Philadelphia, Jason Kelce’s parade speech continues to play — however he is considered one of the most outspoken members of the workforce for positive. Not many individuals take photographs at the Patriots’ machine and come out on the profitable finish of it.

However let Johnson and his teammates inform the story, and they will inform you there’s logic and motivation behind each phrase he says.

And typically a quote taken out of context can present bulletin-board materials for an opponent. Johnson’s feedback, on the different hand, are virtually unattainable to get misplaced in translation. And that’s typically by design. 

He stated he studied the means McGregor verbally disrespected Jose Aldo, the undefeated UFC light-weight champion, earlier than they met. McGregor had gained the psychological battle, per Johnson, as a result of he had talked himself into believing in his superiority. And once they lastly did struggle, Aldo was knocked out in 13 seconds. 

“I think it brings the best out of you whenever you force yourself to be put on a platform,” Johnson stated. “All eyes are on you. Hey, you’re going to get my best, I swear. It’s going to make me work harder. And I hope guys in the locker room say, ‘Lane’s crazy.’ But at the end of the day, I think they [bleeping] like that [bleep].” 

Brooks agreed. “It makes us have to back it up every time now,” Brooks stated. “It makes you stay on your ‘A’ game.” [philly.com]

Eagles training camp report card

Eliot Shorr-Parks | NJ.com

Grades are finally in the eye of the beholder, particularly as a result of we grade gamers at totally different positions and talent ranges in a different way from their counterparts. Quarterbacks are usually held to the highest commonplace, which comes with the territory of enjoying the most essential place in the sport.

So Eliot’s view on Wentz’s camp reps is pretty encouraging, even when it sounds as if the third-year man wants extra reps.

A whole guide could possibly be written on what we now have seen type Wentz thus far in training camp. Some days it seems like a positive factor he’s going to play in Week 1. Different days the lack of reps he’s taking definitely makes you query when he’ll truly return. 

One factor, nevertheless, is obvious — Wentz seems to be absolutely recovered from the torn ACL he suffered final season. His mechanics are nonetheless robust, his arm power continues to be there and he can nonetheless transfer round like he used to have the ability to. Whether or not that results in him enjoying in Week 1 stays to be seen. The excellent news is in the long run it seems Wentz can be the similar participant when he does ultimately return. 

Wentz was not that sharp throughout training camp if you strictly take a look at his play. He confirmed some indicators of rust and made some uncharacteristically dangerous selections with the ball. Final yr Wentz was 227 of 330 throughout training camp, throwing 31 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. Though these numbers included a few additional practices than the ones above, there isn’t a denying Wentz was a lot sharper final yr than he was this training camp. 

Wentz would tremendously profit from some elevated reps between now and the starting of the season if he’s going to start out in Week 1. [NJ.com]

53-man roster projection popping out of camp

Bo Wulf | The Athletic

There’s nonetheless loads of preseason motion left for gamers to say themselves, along with time for accidents to happen and make the roster crunch a little much less crowded. However as soon as the Eagles end their second preseason recreation in New England on Thursday night time, we’ll be even nearer to understanding what the last 53 seems to be like.

This is Bo on the operating again spot, which nonetheless appears to have a respectable quantity of uncertainty past the three guys (Jay Ajayi, Darren Sproles, Corey Clement) who look like locked in.

The pre-camp iteration of this record tabbed Josh Adams as the fourth operating again on spec and camp performed out in the undrafted rookie’s favor till he suffered a “lower body injury” a couple days in the past. With Ajayi set to hit the market this offseason and Sproles getting into his last season, the Eagles have little in the approach of operating again depth behind Clement after this season. If Adams returns to the area and performs once more this preseason, he might very properly win the job. For now, we’ll guess he’s an IR stash and give the final spot to Smallwood, who can a minimum of fake to do every thing a operating again is requested to do. He can even play particular groups. 

Participant to observe Thursday night time: Matt Jones. The veteran sat out the first preseason recreation with an damage however has practiced this week. With Donnel Pumphrey and Adams presumably out, he has a probability to make an impression. [theathletic.com]

Broad receiver a place to observe at New England

Dave Spadaro | Eagles.com

It is anybody’s guess when we will see the broad receiver group at full power, as Alshon Jeffery’s lack of availability continues to hold over Philadelphia. With the prime canine on the sidelines and points protecting the likes of Nelson Agholor and Mack Hollins out of the short-term image, there’s a chance for guys additional down the depth chart to point out and show.

Shelton Gibson impressed in the preseason opener, and could have one other shot to take action towards the Patriots on Thursday.

He’s come a great distance since final summer time. Shelton Gibson is completely totally different than the rookie who was, he even admits it, a bit overwhelmed by the NFL and every part that went with it. Gibson’s 63-yard landing catch from Sudfeld final week was an instance of what he can do – he’s acquired the velocity to run previous defenders, he’s good with the ball in his arms and he can discover the finish zone. He simply must trust in his arms and he’s much more superior this yr than final. 

One of the simplest ways for Gibson to proceed that massive step ahead is to maintain stacking strong days on prime of each other. Gibson ought to play fairly a bit at New England and that may allow him to get into a rhythm, hold constructing confidence, and present the teaching employees that he can present high quality play when wanted. [philadelphiaeagles.com]

Eagles have thought-about a Ronald Darby commerce

Brandon Lee Gowton | Bleeding Inexperienced Nation

A double dose of BLG as we speak, as the man behind BGN stories Darby’s contract standing might result in Philadelphia’s entrance workplace making a deal.

However regardless of reporting this risk being on the desk, Gowton does not sound satisfied it should occur in the midst of a title protection.

If Darby does get moved, the Eagles can be making the commerce partially as a result of they really feel excellent about what they’ve of their younger secondary. Returning starter Jalen Mills has arguably been certainly one of the greatest gamers in camp this yr. 2017 second-round decide Sidney Jones hasn’t dominated however he’s proven potential. 2018 fourth-round decide Avonte Maddox has lately been receiving first workforce nickel nook reps in follow. Regardless of some ups and downs, Rasul Douglas has some NFL expertise beneath his belt and has drawn reward from the teaching employees. De’Vante Bausby has proven the makings of being a rosterable participant and D.J. Killings is on the bubble as nicely. Undrafted rookie free agent Chandon Sullivan might wind up on the apply squad. 

The current Maddox improvement is particularly fascinating. If the rookie finally ends up beginning in the slot, the place does that leaves Jones? He’d be the fourth cornerback in line for enjoying time with Darby and Mills beginning on the outdoors. Buying and selling Darby would permit Jones to take over on the outdoors with Maddox staying in the slot. 

Finally, although, my guess is that Darby WON’T be dealt as a result of his worth as a member of 2018 Eagles will probably be greater than what Philadelphia might be provided for him in a commerce. I feel the Eagles like what they’ve seen out of Darby this summer time and really feel good about having him for a minimum of another yr. They’ll stay with him strolling in free company, if it involves that, since they’ll possible be capable of get a compensatory decide in return. [bleedingreennation.com]

If I have been a betting man, I might lean towards Darby staying. Alternatives to repeat as Super Bowl champions do not come round typically, and the Eagles can be greatest served having as deep a secondary as they will handle.


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